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Ilythia
March 17th, 2008, 07:28 PM
Lust
Gluttony
Avarice
Sloth
Wrath
Envy
Vanity


The above are the original seven deadly sins laid by the Pope, Gregory the Great in the 6th century. We thus enter the modern world which is the 21st century, an age ruled by advancements of technology and globalization (among other things). We are also confronted with issues such as global warming and the consumption of our natural resources.

Because people are so busy with their lifestyles, many don't have the time to attend mass and/or stopped believing due to the controversial scandals that the Catholic Church has been involved. The Vatican, seeing the numbers of people attending mass dwindling, decided to take action by updating the list for the now modernized world.

New Deadly Sins:

Abortion
Biogenetic Engineering
Drug Dealing
The obscenely rich
Pedophilia
Pollution
Social Injustice


So, after 1,500 years since the first seven were laid, they finally realize that they can't fight the process which is globalization or are they trying to redeem themselves because the Catholic church has murdered more people than any religious group in history?

From my personal point of view, I see the first seven deadly sins as... elegant for a lack of a better word. Artists throughout the years have portrayed their versions of the first seven in their artworks. For some reason, I can't find anything inspiring about these new seven. Perhaps it may be due to the fact that all of these are currently happening in our society. *shrugs*

Or perhaps the Church is finding an excuse for making people confess? Haha, I wonder if another fifteen hundred years have to pass to update the now current list. They never fail to amuse me.

dissonance
March 17th, 2008, 09:00 PM
What's weird is that these new deadly sins are not behaviours people have in their daily lives, but ... I don't know how to say it. I gues what I'm trying to say is that the old deadly sins are somehow part of human nature; anyone can be guilty of these old sins. The new sins are all directed towards specific individuals. It doesn't make sense.

Shun
March 17th, 2008, 09:30 PM
first:

Shun
March 17th, 2008, 09:35 PM
If that's not art, WHAT IS?

The new sins are all directed towards specific individuals. It doesn't make sense.Those who lust knowledge of the human being, world, and universe are evil. DUH.

lol though, pollution's one of them.. So if you have a car, YOU'RE GOING TO HELL. Or maybe it's promoting Hybrids amongst the Catholic culture?

That's probably all it is. The biggest Hybrid car creator probably offered to sponsor actions of the Catholic church, along with a possible remodeling of Vatican City, and they were ALL FOR IT, knowing that spreading the world to their sub-10,000 followers getting them free stuff from big companies would definitely be worth it.

Aside from this topic, I hadn't even heard of the change. And my father's Catholic. And by Catholic I mean CATHOLIC.. he's anti-everythinganti-catholic, he regularly goes to church, he does NOT work Sundays, etc. He's a true nigger, basically.

Crimson
March 18th, 2008, 05:49 AM
I personally think that within the original seven deadly sins, modern people go through all seven at least one point in their life. These new ones, you might only go through a few of them.

Plus, I agree with Ilythia - the new sins can't really be put into any sort of artwork. It's cool to see how painters in the past would portray the seven deadly sins.

Shun
March 18th, 2008, 01:44 PM
Abortion: drawings/paintings of fetuses
Biogenetic Engineering: drawings/paintings of clones
Drug Dealing: drawings/paintings of after-effects, of drug-like sceneries, etc
The obscenely rich: it's basically greed (even though there are many rich people who give a lot to charities, to the needy, etc.. i.e.: Warren Buffett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett))
Pedophilia: drawings/paintings of old people stalking children, lol ('twould be a great lulz sight IMO)
Pollution: a scenery of pure fog could become one of the most famous works ever (apparently some guy made a shitload of money off of a completely pink canvas)
Social Injustice: drawings/paintings of people ... well, that's basically the job of any courtroom artist. they paint miserable people after losing cases, etc

pssh, like they wouldn't make great pieces of artwork

Crimson
March 18th, 2008, 03:26 PM
Okay, I lol'd at the pedophilia idea for a painting, I'll admit it - but now that you've put it in that sort of perspective, they could be turned into some really interesting artwork...
Still doesn't mean the Church had to go out of their way to make a new list for the 'Seven Deadly Sins'.

Shun
March 18th, 2008, 05:54 PM
Still doesn't mean the Church had to go out of their way to make a new list for the 'Seven Deadly Sins'.They're probably just trying to relate better with today's people and the problems they face (or at least see on the news or in the paper). They're... trying to be 'hip', in a sense.

Kanji
March 18th, 2008, 07:59 PM
Loving the "o pope u" responses so far. Shun's theory seems the most plausible.

But if they're serious, what? Does the Catholic church actually think that the rest of the world gives a shit.

I totally agree with the idea of elegance behind the first set of deadly sins; they have some kind of longevity that I think will apply to mankind for eternity. Every person can be characterized by a hybrid of some of those sins. But, this new set is so specific that I can safely say I'm not a 'modern' sinner. The new list is going to need a revision every five years, or something.

Re: art, Japan's got pedophilia down. (sup lolis)

Shun
March 18th, 2008, 08:36 PM
Re: art, Japan's got pedophilia down. (sup lolis)Oh, cool. Japan's going to hell. One reason to not sin for me right there :O [/lol racism]

The new list is going to need a revision every five years, or something.yeahhh... Before I thought it was just plain-out dumb. Now it's a retarded move. Like when you look at some retarded kid, thinking "lol is he retarded?" only to be corrected with a smack in the head by your mother or father saying "YES. .__."